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Fish Out of Water: EM-Bound Med Students in the ICU – Med Student Over Easy

Stepping into the ICU as an EM-bound medical student can feel like being dropped into a completely different world– slower pace, sicker patients, and a level of detail that can be overwhelming at first. In this conversation, cohosts Patricia and Kaitlin sit down with guests Dr. Tim Montrief and Dr. Jacob Smith to unpack what your role actually looks like in the ICU, how to succeed, and why this rotation is one of the most valuable experiences you can have before residency.

Finding Your Role in an Unfamiliar Environment

In the ICU, your role shifts from juggling multiple quick encounters to deeply understanding one or two critically ill patients. Instead of bouncing between rooms, you’re expected to “own” your patient: tracking labs, medications, and every clinical change over a 24-hour period. This is where you start to build the same habits you’ll use in the ED: reassessing patients, talking to nurses, and synthesizing information, but with more time to think.

While it may feel intimidating at first, the ICU actually gives you space to learn in a way the ED sometimes can’t. You’re able to ask questions, connect physiology to real patient care, and truly understand why decisions are being made. Think of it less as being out of your element and more as zooming in on the details that make you a stronger clinician.

Common Pitfalls (and How to Avoid Them)

One of the biggest mistakes students make is relying too heavily on the chart. In the ICU, numbers and notes only tell part of the story. You have to go to the bedside, talk to the nurse, and physically assess the patient to understand what’s really going on. Skipping this step can lead to an incomplete or even inaccurate picture.

Another challenge is navigating conversations with families. It’s easy to feel unsure about what to say, especially when you don’t have all the answers. But you don’t need to. Being honest—“I don’t know, but I’ll find out”—builds trust and shows maturity. As a student, you often have more time than anyone else on the team to connect with families, learn what matters to the patient, and bring that perspective back to the team.

Finally, don’t be the “quietly interested” student. If you want to learn procedures or be involved, say it. Show up prepared, know the basics, and express your goals early, because the students who speak up are the ones who get pulled into opportunities.

What Actually Matters: Skills You’ll Take Back to the ED

Even though the ICU may feel far removed from the emergency department, the core skills are incredibly transferable. Learning how to manage ventilators, recognize different types of shock, and understand vasopressor use will directly impact how you care for critically ill patients in the ED.

Procedures are part of the experience too—central lines, arterial lines, intubations—but what matters more is understanding when and why they’re done. Preparation, positioning, and knowing the steps will take you much further than just wanting to “do the procedure.”

Equally important are the non-procedural skills: participating in goals-of-care discussions, recognizing subtle clinical changes, and understanding the full trajectory of a patient’s illness. The ICU teaches you that medicine isn’t just about resuscitation—it’s about caring for patients through every stage, including some of the hardest moments.

Takeaway Points:
  1. Own your patient and go beyond the chart — spend time at the bedside, talk to nurses and families, and truly understand the full clinical picture.
  2. Speak up and stay engaged — express your interest in learning, ask questions, and show initiative to get involved in procedures and patient care.
  3. Focus on fundamentals that translate to EM — ventilation, shock management, and recognizing subtle clinical changes will directly strengthen your skills in the emergency department.

Fish out of Water: EM bound medical student in the ICU Med Student Over Easy by EM Over Easy

About Our Guests:

Jacob Smith, DO 

Surgical and Neuro Critical Care/Emergency Medicine – Roanoke, VA

Tim Montrief, MD, MPH

Cardiothoracic Critical Care/Emergency Medicine – Miami, Florida

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Fish Out of Water: EM-Bound Med Students in the ICU – Med Student Over Easy
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